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I'm sure you're all aware of the latest so I won't bother getting into it here. (Apologies for the Reddit link.) I cancelled my account and joined Express VPN for a 30-day trial. The Linux setup is via command line which is easy enough. The connections are also handled via command line - at least as far as I can tell. I've only been poking around on it for an hour.

My browser of choice, Iridium, works just fine. I just tried to use Dissenter and failed spectacularly. I'll dig into it later.
I also just downloaded and tried Firefox, which also failed spectacularly. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting FF because I don't intend on using it. I only mention it here because some of you might use it and I wonder what your experience is.

I haven't tried streaming or video sites like YouTube or the others yet, either.
More to come.

EDIT: Thanks for the Achive link.

I'm sure you're all aware of the latest [PIA VPN news](http://archive.ph/ntxhU) so I won't bother getting into it here. (Apologies for the Reddit link.) I cancelled my account and joined Express VPN for a 30-day trial. The Linux setup is via command line which is easy enough. The connections are also handled via command line - at least as far as I can tell. I've only been poking around on it for an hour. My browser of choice, Iridium, works just fine. I just tried to use Dissenter and failed spectacularly. I'll dig into it later. I also just downloaded and tried Firefox, which also failed spectacularly. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting FF because I don't intend on using it. I only mention it here because some of you might use it and I wonder what your experience is. I haven't tried streaming or video sites like YouTube or the others yet, either. More to come. **EDIT:** Thanks @picman for the Achive link.

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[–] [deleted] 4 pts

use this instead of the reddit link: https://archive.ph/ntxhU

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Why would a browser fail on a system running a vpn client? The traffic is routed through the tunnel, which is handled by the underlying system (linux). Applications shouldn't care if your access to the internet comes from a PPP connection, a tunnel or if it's available from a gateway on the network.

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I have no idea why one browser works and the other doesn't. I got busy at work and didn't get to look into it, but I'll play around tomorrow.

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Does it use its own client or it uses openvpn?

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The router version uses Open VPN. The desktop / mobile versions use the E-VPN client.

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I've been using ExpressVPN for over 2 years now.

Pretty much any VPN will work if you are in a place that doesn't fuck with the internet: ie. CHINA. Here is my review.

Reliability is the main reason I initially chose ExpressVPN, despite it being one of the most expensive, it has worked MOST of the time. However, in China at least, it can take anywhere up to a few minutes to establish a connection to the some servers; others won't work at all. Sometimes longer with the connection is unsuccessful and it has to keep trying; and that's when they're working properly.

There have been no less than 3 significant occurrences where it didn't work at all for periods of two whole weeks. The latest being during the PRC's 70th year anniversary . The eventual "fix" was to release a whole new app. The linux version came out a few days after the Android one, so I was stuck using my phone as a hotspot for that time.

When it's working. I can connect to a few key locations; HK, USA, UK, Singapore, Japan. But specific countries (they have servers all over the world) will fail. I can't connect to Australia to access government/taxation websites for example.

As of writing, it is down, and has been down for a few days now. If you want to know exactly how long, check my voat activity (voat is blocked in China), as I'm active on both forums. There is a link for "updates on the situation in China" on the app, and now not even that's working (that's never happened before). It's anyone's guess when it will be up again.

I will be purchasing another VPN, and having both at once, simply because I need open internet (specifically gmail) enough that it justifies the expense. At this stage it'll probably be Nord, because I figure that the bigger providers will have the resources to constantly battle the chinks, but I'm very open to other suggestions (for android and linux, not IOS).

My final verdict: if you don't live in a commie shit-hole, shop around, and get the cheapest one. They should all work fine. If you need it for specific reasons in a hostile environment, then it justifies the expense of multiple VPN providers. You also have other options such as shadowsocks, that are very cheap, but I haven't used those.

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Thanks for the excellent response.

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I live in China as well, and use Astrill with good success. ExpressVPN and Astrill together are enough. Astrill is my main.

What about Tor?

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Tor browser is compromised. Maybe use the network with diff browser with scripts blocked

Says who? How is it compromised?

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I don't know how to use it (never tried).

It's on my list of things to do though because the way things are going, the normal content I like (metokur and other "edgy" streamers and vids) will only be available on the dark web.

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I got rid of PIA a while ago. I figure the best way to go is rotate through some of them. I just go with monthly myself as some people got screwed on 2 years alone with PIA (VPN) since they went with a 3 year plan a year before this all happened from what I saw myself.

I've used ExpressVPN (It's decent at least if not better than decent, but I wanted to try PIA and I moved on a few months ago myself) and both PIA VPN, but right now I'm using something else myself currently.

There's 10s if not 100s of them and many do intrusive type stuff. You have to find the list of like 25 that do none of this and just find out what works for you and don't be scared to try others with some research first and of course if that VPN works for you.


I figure never do more than a year at a time myself because at worse I'll probably get screwed out of 7 months not another 24 if I did a 3 year plan or 31 months in total at that point out of 36 (3 years).