Actually... a super-star engineer coder takes 7 to 11 months to fully recruit sometimes, and months of salary negotiations. I am NOT shitting about the 11 months wooing max end.
They obviously lost zero super-star engineer coders.
Very high IQ superstar engineers are very very hard to steal away from their current jobs and are rarely looking on the job market. Headhunters work hard to locate these hard to find and recruit heavy hitters. Headhunters get one third the value of first 12 estimated months salary if the top tier guru programmer works for MORE than 90 days without quitting. Headhunters are either skilled or totally 100% retarded. There is no in-between. If you or some comapny pays you the $1,500 dollars to go to a SINGLE day at Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC), or Apple WWDC, twenty high end recruiters dreaming of finding a new polo pony to sell will all scramble to ask you for your business card or contact info while you snack, walk around, or wait in line for the total shit food microsoft or apple calls food.
WinHEC has two recruiters and two sales managers for every attending engineer : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Hardware_Engineering_Conference
Apple WWDC has a higher percent of engineers, mainly because half the tickets are taken by apple engineers, who hate being recruited because they all have vesting stock options tying them to apple. Only the very smartest leave apple, usually in waves of 6 at a time the same week, to form new startups. hundreds of startups were formed by people quitting apple at the same time. It is ILLEGAL to hire away apple engineers by ex apple engineers AFTER a week elapses due to california contract law of what employees of apple sign, they have to all just by happenstance quit together.
This is the man who knows. These companies have job posting length requirements/policies and shit too, they don't turn on a dime. ..but yeah any dev worth half a damn has never had to collect unemployment. You log on to linked in and get 20 messages the next day.
The tech economy is held together with spit and duct-tape, the work is often frustrating, often tedious, you have to have a ridiculous IQ and/or a ton of experience in a given platform/codebase to be worth a damn for the real large scale/low level stuff. You have to be autistic enough to communicate effectively with a machine (the most autistic thing possible) and then also play inter office politics with people who can't understand anything you say to them but expect you rebuild the warp nacells with a spoon and some rubber bands.
You're salaried but the companies want to work you like a dog because you are so damned expensive and the 'golden handcuffs' (though around here it's more like 'gold plated handcuffs') are real. I've lost it on a PM who didn't want me to take lunch, wanted to buy me lunch, go get the lunch for me, whatever as long as I kept coding his last minute shit (and I knew I was going to be there all night). The whole point of getting lunch is to take a break from you and your bullshit you asshole. I can afford my own sub sandwich. On the West Coast it's more competitive and the salaries are higher but the game is the same.
It's cheaper to hire a bunch of middle mangers to poke you with a stick and say 'code faster' than it is to hire more devs. They also want to replace you with some foreigner who will work for half your salary and have you train them yourself. Same with the whole 'women in tech' push, they just want to widen the candidate pool so they can lower wages. You get mostly glorified button pushers/data enterers/paint by numbers types like in the 40's/50's. A few wind up on par with an average male dev, I've never seen one who can hold a candle to the real big brains though.
Yeah, I was in a microsoft building years ago and they had posters everywhere saying there was a $10,000 bonus if you convinced a friend to come work there.
That said, this particular company seems to make a project management web-app. I don't think they need to hire top tier geniuses, probably didn't have any to begin with. Or am I underestimating the market value of a competant web dev?
project management web-app
I almost spit out my coffee laughing.
I guess I am mainly only talking about places that write systems level code, firmware, drivers, microcode, utilities, compilers, complex engineering and science applications, etc.
Yeah, I was wondering when you started talking about a windows hardware conference, didn't seem like productivity web app territory.
Incidentally, if you have any advice about how to get into that kind of field could I PM you? I've wanted to work with hardware level coding for years.
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