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48k miles can be split between two or three cars.

And driving 48,000 miles in a gas car would cost the average American about $6,500 at today's gas prices. The electricity to drive 48,000 miles would cost the average American $1,668. $5,000 right in your pocket. Sounds like a communist conspiracy to me.

Also, not every vehicle is a tiny ass car that you have.

Is 4,000 lbs tiny for a sedan?

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First you are assuming electricity prices will be the same.

If you have 300 million people going to EVs, they are going to plug a lot of them in, and the grid will have to be expanded with new lines, transformers, switches, and the maintenance will all those new components.

The cost of electricity will certainly go up. Gasoline was half the price only a year or two ago. Most of that price increase is due to politics.

Is 4,000 lbs tiny for a sedan?

That tells me nothing of the size. Something like a current F350 would have too little range for its square shape and size.

Most importantly, all this shift to EVs is political, it has nothing to do about saving the planet.

They want a smart grid where they can have more control. Sure you can charge with solar at home, but what are you going to do about refilling on a trip if the grid is down, either do to natural disaster or the gov't limiting the consumption with their smart grid.

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The cost of electricity will certainly go up.

Why would the price of electricity go up? Prices are a function of supply and demand, not just demand. The only way to make electricity cost more is to constrain supply while growing demand. Anyway, electricity would have to increase by 500% to equal gas prices. There's a limit to how much any nefarious actors can force up the price of electricity because of how relatively easily people can generate it on their own. If prices increased another 50% it would be more economical to generate and store electricity at home.

They want a smart grid where they can have more control. Sure you can charge with solar at home, but what are you going to do about refilling on a trip if the grid is down, either do to natural disaster or the gov't limiting the consumption with their smart grid.

There is no control that can be implemented with electricity as a fuel that can't just as easily, or even more easily be implemented with gasoline.

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you sound like a tesla owner

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Why would the price of electricity go up?

Why because 300 million cars need to be charged that's why. Cars take a lot of energy and power, that energy will be transferred from oil to grid.

electricity would have to increase by 500% to equal gas prices

With this government, that isn't out of the question.

There is no control that can be implemented with electricity as a fuel that can't just as easily, or even more easily be implemented with gasoline

I disagree, oil infrastructure will be harder to shutdown all at once. Just like major blackouts in the past, one switching station can cause major issues for 1/4 of the country. Oil is transported in multiple facets, truck, train, and pipeline. Oil can also provide it's own energy from the ground to the gas tank.

There is no reason there should be any forced "update" to EVs at all.

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It's not the cost of electricity, it's going to be the added cost everyone's going to have to pay for all the extra infrastructure to provide all that extra electricity. It isn't safe to assume it scales linearly and it most likely does not.

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It isn't safe to assume it scales linearly and it most likely does not.

What leads you to think the marginal cost of producing a MWh of electricity increases with total output? If you have to double the amount of plants and infrastructure to accommodate double the demand, you're going to be getting double the money.

When you multiply both sides of an equation by the same factor the net result is zero change.

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How many nuclear power plants have been built in the US in the past 30 years? What's the cheapest source of electricity? How many hydro plants can be built? Are there infinite rivers and suitable places for reservoirs? If coal consumption doubles, what happens to the cost of coal? Does it also double, or is it inelastic supply? Even if we assume it only doubles in price, doesn't that mean you're burning twice the coal at twice the expense, IE paying 4 times and much for twice the power? Why the fuck are you insisting it scales linearly?