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[–] 8 pts

Even without that lock they all end up being useless paperweights because they are too expensive to repair (through crApple repair channels) or can't be repaired (by 3rd party services) because of their security chip that prevents anyone from replacing the broken/defective parts.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

I know fuck all about electronics but my BIL has been in IT his entire life. He's somehow kept his wife's (My sister) MacBook alive for about 12 years.

I hate apple too. I just can't comprehend how she's using the same laptop. To top it off, he's an android/windows/Linux guy.

I'm not even arguing anything. Just trying to figure out how that worked out considering the trash she insists on buying.

[–] 7 pts

He's somehow kept his wife's (My sister) MacBook alive for about 12 years.

Those were the early laptops that were easily serviceable. Not anymore. Especially after Jobs died.

[–] 2 pts

My iMac is a 2011 model. I was gifted an iPhone 5 and an iPod touch. I can't use either because of this fucking activation lock.

[–] 0 pt

The iPhone 5 only supported iOS 10. That device is pretty much useless for anything other than phone calls, and you'd be better off spending the $50 to buy a cheap Nokia candybar if that's what you want to do.

The last iPod Touch was the 7th, and those are getting really long in the tooth as well.

[–] 1 pt

Eventually they’ll stop being updatable with the software and be useless.

[–] 1 pt

Certain older models of macbook were paragons of longevity and serviceability. They used to be worth the money you paid because you could probably guarantee it was going to outlast anything else you could get, or at least give you 10 years of dependable service.

Except certain Lenovo devices. I still have two Lenovo 3000 N200 devices that are going strong. They're going on 15 this year.

[–] 5 pts

How does a person legitimately come into possession of a 2 year old $3k laptop without the owner being available to help you unlock it?

I think there is a major problem with planned obsolescence and electronic devices. I'd still be using my smart phone from a decade ago if I could install the few apps that I need and get a new battery.

[–] 5 pts

Isn't it funny how you can't update Android version without a risk to brick your phone? Eventually many apps will just stop supporting older Android version and won't work unless updated. It's like they looked at PC and Windows with people still using ancient versions for decades and thought "no no! we can't have that! we need to rig this thing from the start!".

That's why I refuse buying new smartphones and just use an emulator instead if I'm really pressed. I still use Nokia phone from 2012, and of course sometimes you run into a problem when you need some kind of app or QR code scan when you're outside, and people looking at you funny when you tell them you don't have a phone, but it's manageable.

[–] 1 pt

To be fair, you can update applications (or force them to stay as is) on an Android device easier than an iOS device, for certain applications.

I used a Kit Kat device until the certificates expired (2013 MotoG) because application vendors were still updating the browser and other items.

iOS, everything is tied to the built in rendering engine, so after a few years of no OS support the device becomes useless. I have a device with iOS 12 on it, it's only a few generations out, and the browser is worthless. Application vendors no longer update things, so pretty much any web-connected widget isn't going to work for very long.

[–] 1 pt

The android studio sdk still has a large target surface, and happily tells you how much market share you will miss out on by raising the minimum target level. The recommended minimum target is Android 4.1. It also still supports legacy (non androidx) libraries, which can lower the minimum target to Android 2.3. Google is doing it's hardest to force developers to conform to their shit by nuking old documentation on not androidx.

Going full native is still possible at least, and if you target opengles, you can absolutely get away from all Google development and completely step away from the framework. Obviously stepping away from the framework means more knowledge and time needed to get something off the ground.

[–] 0 pt

I figure that pretty soon, someone is going to set up intermediate services so you can connect to a server that translates the newest API from the service into an older API that most devices support.

[–] 2 pts

Probably off-lease devices.

[–] 1 pt

Large orgs lifecycle them regularly and cant be bothered to unlock thousands one at a time.

[–] 1 pt

Obviously the government can force them to change this. Their first concern should be 'climate change' but obviously profits over people rules the roost once again.

[–] 1 pt

We have a number of them at the place I work. User's sign into icloud with their personal account, then get fired or quit but don't log out of the device. We can't even lock it down with MDM because "icloud is designed to be used with a user's personal account." Total bullshit. Can't even really use them for parts because everything fucking hot glued together.

[–] 1 pt

perfectly good

macbook

Huh?

[–] 0 pt

I have a Samsung pad that I can't unlock. Probably going to throw it away.