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I can't imagine men doing that . How can you hear the rifle shots , the screams of children and not go in and at least attempt to end it ?

Orders or not , get a couple men , make a plan , and go. They could have my badge for disobeying , but I have to sleep at night. The screams and rifle shots would haunt me , I'd probably end up a suicide or drug addict if I couldn't say to myself I did everything I could.

I can't imagine men doing that . How can you hear the rifle shots , the screams of children and not go in and at least attempt to end it ? Orders or not , get a couple men , make a plan , and go. They could have my badge for disobeying , but I have to sleep at night. The screams and rifle shots would haunt me , I'd probably end up a suicide or drug addict if I couldn't say to myself I did everything I could.

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[–] 14 pts

Because they are cowards, no better than Anifa or BLM.

If the targer is someone who is armed and can fight back, they will hide.

If the target is unarmed people protesting tyrannical mandates, it's a free for all! Gotta get them overtime hours.

I honestly think that police would fall apart within a few days of armed uprising, and military could last for a few month, but their biggest downfall would be soldiers deserting and joining the uprising, bringing all the weapons and equipment with them.

[–] 12 pts

Thin blue line bullshit ended during covid. They enforced unconstitutional mandates. Some of the insane arrests haven't been heard in court going on the third year. I live in a so-called red state.

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Thin blue line bullshit ended during covid. They enforced unconstitutional mandates. Some of the insane arrests haven't been heard in court going on the third year. I live in a so-called red state.

They also supported BLM and antifa attacking them and the public. When a school shooting happens they stand outside waiting for it to end even though they "train" to go in and stop it. Supporting the police is as absurd as supporting BLM, antifa, WEF, PETA, and the State.

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[–] 14 pts

Did the same shit at Park Land and Sandy Hook. False Flags don't look good when the shooter is stopped before he kills anyone. Duh.

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And Columbine. People don't remember this and don't talk about it enough. The Columbine shooting was supposed to be the incident that led to a change in how active shooters were dealt with by the police.

Pre-Columbine, most PDs procedure for active shooters was geared towards CONTAINMENT OF THE THREAT(S) VIA ESTABLISHING A PERIMETER. So that's why it took 3.5 hours for SWAT to even lay eyes on the shooters' corpses. Most of the killings in Columbine happened in the library. There is a door that leads outside into the parking lot from the library, and it was propped open on the day of the shooting. There were 6 police cruisers parked about 15 feet away from this door, with officers hiding behind their vehicles.

Every time they heard a shot, they'd report it on the radio: "Shot fired. Multipe shots, rapid fire. Shots fired." Each time they spoke those words, ANOTHER KID IS MAIMED OR KILLED. And not one of those dozen men said "FUCK THIS, I'M GOING IN THERE AND SHOOTING ANYBODY I SEE WHO HAS A GUN!" They stood there and allowed those kids to be murdered as they cowered helplessly under tables and desks. They could probably hear the fucking cops outside, they probably desperately wondered "WHY AREN'T THEY HELPING US?!"

After that debacle, active shooter policy was supposed to be changed. Here's how active shooters are supposed to be dealt with now: ENGAGE THE SHOOTER IMMEDIATELY, WITH OR WITHOUT BACKUP. COMMUNICATE YOUR POSITION AND INTENT TO ENGAGE, AND THEN FUCKING ENGAGE. It doesn't matter if you're alone, how well armed you are, etc.- it's your fucking job to fight this guy. If a cop starts putting bullets downrange at the shooter, this will force the shooter to take his attention away from executing helpless victims, and engage in a shootout with the cop. The cop doesn't even have to hit the fucker, just get his attention. Every second the shooter spends trying to fight the cops is a second where he is not murdering a civilian.

Cops are literally supposed to Rambo their way into active shooter situations. It's the only thing that makes sense. I understand the concerns of "We don't know how many shooters there are, we don't know if they have hostages, we don't know if there are bombs or traps, etc."- yeah, that sucks, it's called "fog of war", and there's only one way to figure all of this shit out: SACK UP, DRAW YOUR WEAPON, AND GET THE FUCK IN THERE. You're supposed to be a professional warrior as a cop. Behave like one.

Finally, I'd like to mention Stephen Willeford, the Hero of Sutherland Springs. He was that old man, NRA instructor, who stopped that Air Force reject who killed like 30 people in a church. Willeford was sitting at home in his socks on that day, and he heard the shooting begin. He quickly realized what was happening, and in interviews he has said "I remember thinking, every time I heard a shot... that was one of my neighbors, my friends being killed. I couldn't just sit there." So he grabs his AR-15, tells his daughter to load magazines for him, and runs out the door with some partially filled mags and his rifle. Runs a few houses up to where the church is, and sees the shooter coming outside to possibly retrieve ammo from his truck. Our hero sees him, takes cover behind a truck in a driveway, and opens fire on the shooter.

The shooter had a rifle as well, but IIRC, he was struck in the vest almost immediately, causing him to drop his rifle (or it was jammed/empty, regardless- he dropped rifle and pulled a pistol). He then spent a minute or two exchanging gunfire with Willeford. Willeford realized the guy had armor on, and began to try to aim for unprotected areas of the torso. He struck him at least once in that area, and this made the shooter decide "Fuck this" and attempt to flee. He jumped into his vehicle and took off; meanwhile, a bystander in a pickup truck was watching this from the road. Willeford runs over to him, and says "Hey he just shot up that church, you want to help me go after him?" Guy in the truck was like "Sure, get in loser" and Willeford hops in. They begin chasing the fucker, on the phone with 911, feeding them info.

During the chase, Willeford took a moment to check his ammo. He had emptied a few magazines, only had the one left in his weapon. He had either 1 round in the magazine, or 1 round in the chamber- meaning he only had 1-2 rounds left at the most at the moment the shooter decided to flee. Willeford might have been killed if he hadn't been so accurate and decisive in taking action. AND HE DID ALL OF THIS BAREFOOT, AND WITH NO TIME TRAINING WITH "PROFESSIONALS" TO STOP ACTIVE SHOOTERS. All he had was a lifetime of marksmanship, his rifle, a good daughter, a strong moral compass, and an enormous pair of balls. Cops have tanks and shit.

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Okay. Thanks. Lots of stuff I didn't know.

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Did the guy receive any City awards and National media commendations ?/. Tbh, i've never heard of him but there seems to be something about the older generation (those that have the sack) that when they decide a course of action in life or death event they are all in, regardless of shoes, full ammo or 'No dad you might get hurt'.

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Nope, the guy got barely any credit for being an actual hero. Only alternative media interviewed him. This is obviously agenda-driven. His story is so wild, so dramatic, it's like something out of a movie; there should be a fucking movie made about him and the incident.

However, he represents everything that TPTB hate the most. He's an NRA instructor, and older White male, Christian and somewhat conservative. And he used an AR-15 to wound a rampaging shooter, which ultimately led to the end of the killing. The police didn't stop the shooter- Mr. Willeford and the gentleman in the truck (can't recall his name) did the hard work, engaging the shooter in a life-death shootout, and then fucking pursuing him at high speeds until the cops finally got on their tail. That's when they backed off, cops chased the guy for a little bit, he crashed in a ditch (probably in a lot of pain), and then there's a little standoff. Eventually, the shooter popped himself in the head, and the entire event was over.

This was the deadliest mass shooting in American history (or right next to Virginia Tech). And it was stopped by a straight, older, White male who is an NRA instructor, and he used an AR-15 to do the job. Pushing his story would push the message that "Straight White men with AR-15s and training with them are GOOD", and that can't happen. So Mr. Willeford only gets interviewed by Stephen Crowder and a few others.

I think I remember him saying something about being barefoot as he was running out the door. He thought "I need my shoes, my slippers at least", but then he heard another shot, and his mind went back to "Every shot I hear, is one of my neighbors or friends being killed" and decided "Fuck shoes, need to kill a freak real quick".

[–] 9 pts

The unbelievable part is that they made that decision over and over again for an hour after those kids had been shot. They knew some of them could still be saved with medical attention, and they still choose to stay outside.

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This is what the result of zero tolerance policies are.

A bunch of scared pussies who have never solved a problem on their own through the use of force.

They don't want to lose their 'career'.

Just a regular stand up government worker.

[–] 8 pts (edited )

They aren't allowed to interfere in a CIA operation.

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Cops will always follow orders

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[–] 5 pts

Not only did they wait, THEY ACTIVELY STOPPED PARENTS FROM DOING ANYTHING.

Which equates to guarding the shooter.

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They are accessories to MURDER.

This is the reason KKKommiesKKKrats want them here so fucking bad, because they're heartless monsters, brown "people" are fucking ANIMALS!

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Freemason - talmud loving kikes wearing a uniform don't give a shit about any kids.

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Nailed it. Their job was to keep parents from interfering with the slaughter.

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Sure appears that way. Except for those border patrol agents.

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To answer your question, Yes.

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Because it was not men that did it, it was filthy commies. Did people already forget that the defund the police campaign has chased away good people leaving only the dregs?

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I believe the narrative is that they didn't have a key to get in the classroom. Funny how they don't need keys to execute a no knock warrant at 2am.

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No. They arrested parents who wanted to go in and help.

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