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Lots of things I take issue with in this letter. Too many to list and I’m too tired to do it right now.

Let’s just say it sounds like a bunch of crocodile tears and these fuckers still don’t understand (or pretend not to understand) the severity of what they supported and, therefore, the severity of the justice that needs to be imposed upon them to rebalance the scales.

“We’re sorry” isn’t going to cut it, not by a mile. No, there needs to be military tribunals to punish blatant, overt human rights violations. God, and even we can forgive, but lady justice’s job is specifically not to forgive, but rather to take an eye for an eye and offer restitution at the expense of the criminal perpetrators.

None of this shit will even begin to approach the possibility of “being OK” until justice is served, and an “apology” for this shit - even if genuine (which this is not) - will never serve as a sufficient replacement for justice.

EDIT: The comments in the actual referenced article are pure gold and definitely worth reading: https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-scientific-community-admit-we-were-wrong-about-coivd-it-cost-lives-opinion-1776630

Lot's of talk about "justice" and "human rights" and "Nuremberg code."

I think the public sentiment is getting where it needs to be, slowly but surely.

Lots of things I take issue with in this letter. Too many to list and I’m too tired to do it right now. Let’s just say it sounds like a bunch of crocodile tears and these fuckers still don’t understand (or pretend not to understand) the severity of what they supported and, therefore, the severity of the justice that needs to be imposed upon them to rebalance the scales. “We’re sorry” isn’t going to cut it, not by a mile. No, there needs to be military tribunals to punish blatant, overt human rights violations. God, and even we can forgive, but lady justice’s job is specifically *not* to forgive, but rather to take an eye for an eye and offer restitution at the expense of the criminal perpetrators. None of this shit will even begin to approach the possibility of “being OK” until justice is served, and an “apology” for this shit - even if genuine (which this is not) - will never serve as a sufficient replacement for justice. EDIT: The comments in the actual referenced article are pure gold and definitely worth reading: https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-scientific-community-admit-we-were-wrong-about-coivd-it-cost-lives-opinion-1776630 Lot's of talk about "justice" and "human rights" and "Nuremberg code." I think the public sentiment is getting where it needs to be, slowly but surely.

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A large number of people need to be executed for what they did to push the mandates and the Covid "vaccine" on the population, in spite of clear evidence that the mandates and the vax both did far more harm than good. I'm serious. Their insane policies caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of human beings in the US who otherwise would not have died -- and the deaths keep happening. The crimes against humanity of the "Covidians" far outweigh the crimes of the Nazis, or those of Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao. Around the world hundreds of millions are likely to die prematurely because of the Covid vaccines. Not to mention those who died because Fauci decided to do "gain of function" research in China, and create a new virus that would infect everyone on the planet. Was it released on purpose? That remains to be discovered. My own view is that it probably was released deliberately, so that the lockdowns could be instituted and the vax rolled out. People need to be executed for this, a lot of people.

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Also the problem with trials or executions is they’re all in on it, it’s a club and we’re not in it. Are they going to try their buddies, nope.

It will take the people to do it before do they have the will? After J6 people are scared.

You could just ignore DC and act locally/state level and let DC wither with nobody listening to them once the local and state level figures have been replaced.

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outweigh the crimes of the Nazis

I believe you need to clarify what exactly you mean by "crimes of the Nazis", because taking your previous blatant spreading of jewish propaganda into account the only way I can see this is that you are pushing the Holocaust lie.

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The only crime I believe they committed is not actually killing the 6 million but that’s just me.

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The jews would’ve been confined to Israel had Germany won and we wouldn’t be putting up with their non-sense.

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Can't we just confine them to coffins?

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Too much room. I have a Rube Goldberg machine/ride that would work and there would be nothing left. It’s partly taken from their fake roller coaster of death the would fling them at the end into ovens. But mine would work better and be realistic.

An island like Alcatraz could work also if too many pussies complained as long as the can’t communicate with the outside world.

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Ok, here's my point by point retort. I was going to post it as a comment on the actual newsweek article, but character count limitations got me. But, I took the time to write it and I don't want it to be completely wasted time..

I take issue with so much in this letter, I'm not entirely sure I can cover it all... but I'll try.

Let's start with, in your own words, your motivation for writing this letter:

"My motivation for writing this is simple: It's clear to me that for public trust to be restored in science, scientists should publicly discuss what went right and what went wrong during the pandemic, and where we could have done better."

First of all, it's not that there is "lack of public trust" in science itself. Science is but a procedure for testing hypotheses, gathering obervable facts from those tests, and then using that data to come to what are provable, repeatable, empirical truths.

So long as the proper procedures are carried out without bias, no one has a problem with "science". So, science is not the issue. The issue is the far too many people who claimed to practice science, but in reality stood to be counted with everything contrary to science as it's defined above. The issue is the condescending arrogance spewed out of their filthy sewers whilst doing it. That the moment they were given the slightest amount of power, they abused it in the worst way. The cowardice that kept them from standing for what's right.

Now, I have no evidence that you personally were in any sort of position to exercise any real power over the masses in this regard. So much of what I will say next doesn't apply to you. But, you did stand for and support the tyrants of our day. And only now when you see your own livlihood threatened, when you see that your field is so damaged by what you supported for TWO YEARS STRAIGHT, do you apologize? You said it yourself: your motivation is that "public trust be restored to science". It's not that justice is carried out. It's not that there is restitution to victims. It's simply that your precious industry is preserved. I am grateful that you are honest about your motivations, as wrong as they are. But they are still wrong.

Moving on...

"I was with them when they called for lockdowns, vaccines, and boosters." You left out vaccine mandates..Did you write a letter against the mandates? You know, the MOST EGREGIOUS OF ALL ACTIONS that were forced on the entire nation? The tyrannical edict that 100% violated the Nuremburg code prohibiting forced participation in medical experiments? Remember that? We do. And yet you conveniently left it out for some reason...

Moving on..

"I can see now that the scientific community from the CDC to the WHO to the FDA and their representatives, repeatedly overstated the evidence and misled the public..."

You "can see now", you say? Why couldn't you see then? Oh wait, you COULD:

"All of these were scientific mistakes at the time, not in hindsight."

Surely you can see the problem here? So which is it? You "can see it now", in hindsight? Or you saw it "at the time", but made the gutless choice to say nothing until you thought it was safe and/or you felt that your profession may be threatened? Both can't be true at the same time, and yet you claim - in writing - that they are.

Moving on....

"...the scientific community from the CDC to the WHO to the FDA and their representatives, repeatedly overstated the evidence and misled the public.."

"Overstated evidence" and "misled the public".. you sound like a politician with these understated, flowery descriptions.. let's just call it what is is: THEY BLATANTLY LIED. And you supported those lies. For. Two. Straight. Years.

Moving on...

"What we did not properly appreciate is that preferences determine how scientific expertise is used, and that our preferences might be—indeed, our preferences were—very different from many of the people that we serve. We created policy based on our preferences, then justified it using data."

So in other words, you wore your fancy lab coats, told everyone you were conducting science, but then knowingly practiced the opposite of science while you claimed to practice actual science and systematically ruined ANYONE who even asked so much as a critical question.

"And then we portrayed those opposing our efforts as misguided, ignorant, selfish, and evil."

Yes, that's all true, but it's actually far worse than that. People lost their livlihoods, jobs, families, and even lives simply because they took a stand to oppose you. Your support of anti-science is what emboldened those in government and big tech to do what they did. They used your "scientific opinions" to justify their actions. You may not have shot anyone, but you kept handing bullets to the shooters, figuratively speaking, of course.

"We made science a team sport, and in so doing, we made it no longer science."

Oh good. You finally admitted it. So it wasn't actual science. So when we kept saying that for TWO YEARS and you people told us we were wrong and evil, you knew the whole time that we were right. I mean, you are educated in science, right? So, it's not like you had this revelation just recently. Either that, or you should get a refund from whoever educated you because you did just discover this. It's got to be one of the two. Which is it? Because it can't be both.

Moving on...

"We excluded important parts of the population from policy development.."

Oh, you mean like, what, EVERYONE BUT YOURSELVES AND YOUR HANDLERS IN MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT? So like, 99% of the population?

Moving on...

"Our emotional response and ingrained partisanship prevented us from seeing the full impact of our actions on the people we are supposed to serve."

You see, good sir, that's why civil societies and decent people have what we call "guiding principles". If you have a strong set of guiding principles, you never have to worry about negatively impacting vulnerable people, regardless of your emotions and biases. So, for example, our constitution.. which is full of guiding principles designed precisely to protect us from tyrants, their enablers (you), and their henchmen. And again, the Nuremburg codes, which were enacted to deal with THIS EXACT AND SPECIFIC SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. And yet, you all ignored all of it.

Are you starting to understand the true gravity of what you, and your contemporaries, did here? This isn't just that you guys abandoned scientific best practices. That in of itself is bad and unprofessional, but forgivable. No, what you people enabled goes WAY BEYOND that by hundreds of miles.

"And we paid the price. The rage of the those marginalized by the expert class exploded onto and dominated social media."

I'm sorry, but I literally laughed out loud at this line. YOU paid the price? What price have you paid exactly? Did you lose your job? Your income? A child? A parent? A sibling? A spouse? Did you lose anything of REAL VALUE as a direct result of what you supported? Oh, no, it doesn't look like it. Apparently, people "raged" at you on Facebook. Well, that must have been very difficult for you. I'm so sorry. Now, queue the world's tiniest violin and let's all have a moment of silence because people "raged" at you and were really, really, really mean because you assisted in taking irreplaceable things of actual value from them.

"Lacking the scientific lexicon to express their disagreement..."

Was a "scientific lexicon" really necessary? I mean, the lies were SO BLATANT that even uneducated people I know in my life could see it. Do I really need to know how to explain molecular physics when all I have to is point out obvious inconsitencies and lies, most of which are documented on video for anyone with an internet connection to see? This is your narcissism shining through again, bro. You see yourself so high and mighty that even when you're wrong and everyone knows it (including you), those "other people" are too stupid to properly point it out in a fashion that meets your strict academic standards.. As if. Get over yourself already, bro.

"Many dissidents turned to conspiracy theories and a cottage industry of scientific contortionists.."

Aha! And there it is! And thus, you've undermined everything else you've written in your letter by again marginalizing the very people you are apoligizing for marginalizing. Unbelievable. Shocking, but not surprising.

And by the way, it's not a "conspiracy theory" if it's true. And how many "conspiracy theories" have been proven true over the last two years? Do I really need to list them all? Should I? Because you, I, and everyone reading this knows what they are. WE ALL KNOW. So let's cut the BS, bro. As the meme says, "This isn't a game or anything..but in case some of you are wondering, the conspiracy theorists are up 17-0."

Moving on...

"..we have witnessed a massive and ongoing loss of life in America due to distrust of vaccines and the healthcare system; a massive concentration in wealth by already wealthy elites; a rise in suicides and gun violence especially among the poor; a near-doubling of the rate of depression and anxiety disorders especially among the young; a catastrophic loss of educational attainment among already disadvantaged children; and among those most vulnerable, a massive loss of trust in healthcare, science, scientific authorities, and political leaders more broadly."

Wow, that sounds really bad. Almost like it's not something that you can really just "apologize for" and then hope that solves it..

I could go on and on, picking apart this trash you call an apology letter, line by line. But I think I've done that sufficiently enough to make my point.

I will close by saying:

Those of us who fought you are not through. Not by damn sight. Apologies aren't going to magically fix this. While you, sir, may not have been in a position of power to directly violate the human rights of every American citizen, there are those who were and are still walking free. That is unacceptable to us. We will not stop until there is justice. While God, and even I, may forgive those who actively participated in this unconsitutional, genocidal, tyrannical behavior - justice must still be served to restore balance. Lady Justice is not, and never has been, on the same program as God. Nor should she be. Her job is not forgiveness, rather the opposite. Her job is to gouge an eye for an eye and to facilitate restitution.

To be clear, I'm talking about the heads of government, pharma, CDC, FDA..it's a long list. People who wielded actual power and committed these crimes against humanity must be held to account by our justice system - perhaps even the military justice system. If you think that is rash or overreaching, then it just means that you truly don't grasp what was done to innocent people the world over. And that says more about you than it does about us.

So, unless and until justice is served, this isn't over. There are no "deals", there are no other options. This is not negotiable. Justice must prevail. The consitution and the Nuremburg codes were violated consistently and with impunity, and that is not something that you can just "apologize away".

You want to redeem yourself? Spend less time writing unconvincing apology letters and more time standing for justice.

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Seems like this guy is trying to cover his ass.

That’s not gonna work.

Rope.

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He gave a full confession but with excuses.

He needs a trial or maybe since he’s already said he’s guilty punishment can occur when the people decide.

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No, it's actually two years past the time.

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Did you read the shit.. wait until you get to the part where he states his “motivation” for writing the letter….

I may actually make a video where I read this shit and retort to every single disgusting thing in it. For some reason, this has me fucking fuming tonight.

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I read it. Nobody wants to know how I feel about the entire Covid scam, because it's very dark. I want people to die for this. It's the only way there will be even a shadow of justice.

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I think you’re in good company. Justice would definitely be death penalty for crimes against humanity…after a fair trial by military tribunal, of course.

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He said democracy also, I’m tired of that word from the left. Any public figure using that word should be immediately fired and imprisoned until they can fully recite the Declaration of Independence, the bill of rights and also tell us the difference between a democracy vs republic.

Wouldn't that be like a demon drinking holy water?

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So this is his confession and can be used against him at trial?

He’s still pushing the vax lmao. And double speaks through the whole thing. He says the critics weren’t “remotely perfect” but they should’ve been included in the conversation I guess then their opinions dismissed.

Seems he still has a god complex and can’t accept the full blame for their failed policies that anyone with a brain could predict and knew were bad from the beginning.

Also no mention of white people, just poor, small business owners and minorities.

Trump was not remotely perfect, nor were the academic critics of consensus policy. But the scorn that we laid on them was a disaster for public trust in the pandemic response. Our approach alienated large segments of the population from what should have been a national, collaborative project.

The critics weren’t “remotely perfect”. Lmao every policy that has been implemented has been wrong from our politicians, elite and medical community.

Most of us did not speak up in support of alternative views, and many of us tried to suppress them. When strong scientific voices like world-renowned Stanford professors John Ioannidis, Jay Bhattacharya, and Scott Atlas, or University of California San Francisco professors Vinay Prasad and Monica Gandhi, sounded the alarm on behalf of vulnerable communities, they faced severe censure by relentless mobs of critics and detractors in the scientific community—often not on the basis of fact but solely on the basis of differences in scientific opinion.

Now the critics were “world renowned” but we stood in silence.

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I don't know that he can be tried in a court for doing his job as a scientist shittily.

Unless he was in some position of power to make or control actual governmental policy, I don't see how he violated the law.. even though, he's clearly a snake and an assclown...but then it's not illegal to be a snake or an assclown.

I'm betting he was wheeled out on behalf of those who actual would be tried in a court of law if or when that day comes. It's a propaganda piece, not to save his own skin so much as to save that of those who actually held positions of power and used those positions to commit crimes.

I've seen a few of these types of articles.. it appears that they think that if they give us a few half-assed, unbelievable apologies, we'll call it even and go about our day.

They clearly don't have any idea how we actually view them.

As much as this guy drank the koolaide and assisted the narrative, you can't just try any and every person who did that in court. Many of them were simply scammed.

I mean, my own mother is a nurse and just like many doctors, she just takes what the CDC says as gospel and operates under that premise. You can't put people in jail for that.

People like this guy and my mother do need to learn, yes. But they aren't ultimately responsible for what happened. The people who actually enacted policy are the criminals.. all the others were just useful idiots.

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Your mother needs to be hanged.

She committed premeditated murder

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He’s in denial because it’s his mom. They should all hang, down to the pharmacists who were getting paid a bonus for administering the jab. His mom still follows the “party line” even with all the evidence but she’s just willfully ignorant, not evil lol. Stupid and ignorant people get charged with crimes all the time.

Reminds me of this:

And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. [mockingly] They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew. [a few people laugh] And . . . [audience cough] [carefully]

~ Himmler

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lmao I missed this part.

The people who actually enacted policy are the criminals.. all the others were just useful idiots.

His mom is a useful idiot lmao and should be absolved, only the top people she be punished not the ones who could see what was happening “on the ground” and continued to comply because they were used.

I don’t think that excuse worked at the sham trials at Nuremberg.

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LOL

I'll be sure to fuck your mom extra hard in the ass tonight as my revenge for your faggot comment.

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I mean, my own mother is a nurse and just like many doctors, she just takes what the CDC says as gospel and operates under that premise. You can't put people in jail for that.

It falls under “just following orders” when they see the outcomes, don’t try anything different and know they get extra money for the hospital/s for following orders for the deaths.

After the first few months other methods of treatment should’ve been tried. They removed “the right to try”, even went to court to stop ivermectin and hcq for patients/family demanding it. They also left people to die with no visitors. They already knew the moment the patient walked into the hospital the steps to kill them for extra profit that the government outlined. They were going to die but never even tried anything different, questioned or resisted, they just went along with the orders and knew the outcomes.

They all knew what was going on, that’s why my brother as a director of a major medical system resigned along with many doctors, nurses and the researchers they had on staff. They wanted no part of the crimes going on. It was that blatant to anyone with a half working brain and they knew it was criminal and left after fighting to do more.

Then you get to the jab, after the first couple months nurses/doctors/pharmacists knew there were major issues with it, they saw it first hand but kept jabbing and still push it.

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That’s just the thing, not everyone knew or even still knows what’s going on. My mother is still convinced that the jab has value in so far as “minimizing symptoms” from an infection. When pressed about the “died suddenly” stuff, she reverts to data put out by the government…which as we all know is heavily massaged.

She’s not an evil person, she’s just bewitched. She certainly respects my right not to get the jab if I don’t want it and was always against the mandates.

My point is that we need to distinguish between people who were (and still are fooled), and those who have actual power to implement draconian policies and actual did those things.

I guarantee that if my mother believed what we believe, she would have done the same as your brother.

It’s willful ignorance at worst. But that is very different than what the likes of Fauci, the FDA, and Biden have done here.

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That's OK, no more corona ding dong shots, but the flu shot rolled out 3 weeks ago and now everyone is sick. Amazing how they figure out the exact strain that will be prevalent, almost like the flu shots give people the flu to pass on to others. Thankfully we know that the scientific community, esp when the ama and cdc are concerned, always state things scientificaly with no political or financial agenda behind it.

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The Holohoax never happened, but what it did do was give us a legal framework to prosecute jewish swine for promulgating thier fucking diversity and bullshit agenda.

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The scientists fearing the throng,

said that their conclusions were wrong.

Their data was flawed,

and they had played god.

but the people's bloodlust was too strong.

Raaaah raaaah reeeeeeeeeeee rah reeeeeeeeeeee waiting for soeshul meejyah to tell me what to say and think!

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Never forget .

No amnesty.

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Didn’t some idiot women in medicine/science/media post the same type of article in the Atlantic a month or two ago about “it’s time to move on and let it go” or some crap?

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Yeah. She used the word "amnesty." The internets torched her pretty ferociously for it, too.

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Yeah, she was guilty also. Asking for amnesty is admitting you’re guilty along with your colleagues.

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I don’t remember who wrote it and so I don’t know what role she played in any of it.

The general sense I got was that she’d like for us to just forget about it and be friends, and then she seemed to sneakily imply that should also apply to people like Fauci.

People in power need to be held to account for sure.

But not everyone who bought the narrative was in a position of power. In fact, most weren’t.

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