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For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same.

1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed.

2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees?

3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity]

4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth?

5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude?

6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky]

7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case]

8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern?

Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this.

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For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same. 1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed. 2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees? 3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity] 4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth? 5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude? 6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky] 7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case] 8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern? Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this. @Joe_Jaywalker here is the post.

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My qualifications for declaring that “lunar excursion module” an embarrassingly bad fake prop made of cardboard, foil, and curtain rods are as follows:

  • not legally blind

  • graduated fourth grade

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So you have a degree in personal incredulity. No real evidence other than it doesn't meat what you picture a lunar lander to look like in Your head?

Still waiting for that map, measurement, model, or prediction.

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Are you implying there are no FE maps? That wouldn’t prove anything anyway and unlike you I’m not interested in posting irrelevant garbage that doesn’t bolster my claims.

And measurements? What? I’m denying the globe, not the freaking metric system.

Prediction? What the hell? Maybe explain what you’re talking about?

But anyway, I do want to take a brief break from embarrassing you to actually give you some credit: you are the first person who ever has made a dedicated thread about this when I challenged him to. I respect that, rather than expecting me to type this many words in a days-old thread that no one will see.

But, unfortunately for the globetards, the more neutral observers who see this, the more flat earthers there will be in the future. No one ever goes back to believing in the globe once they truly think critically about it.

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A map that has accurate measurements DOES bolster your point.

I can measure the earth's curve, I can measure the distance to the moon and sun. Do that using flat earth. If the earth were flat you should be able to easily triangulation the distance to the sun/moon.

Makena prediction, the heliocetric model can predict, comets and eclipses for example. Eclipses especially down to the minute. What flat earth math can do the same?

There is no flat earth map that accurately represents distance and direction. There just isn't.

I think we can just leave it here.

And of course I'm going to confront the challenge dude. I'm not too chicken shit to defend my stances. Or share my observation, minus some minor insults and you calling me a liar about my lab, this hasn't been over the top uncivil and stayed on topic more or less. It's better than any other discussion I've had with any flat earthen before.

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What about the southern cross and the pole star. I can never figure that out.