sorry but your gold is corrupted so no thanks
Care if I ask you a few quick basic questions just to see where you are coming from?
Do you by chance celebrate every pagan "religious" holiday like easter and christmas?
Do you by chance believe and practice that every unclean animal God deemed unclean, suddenly became clean for, um.. some reason?
Do you, it might be a stretch here, instead of keeping the sabbath(saturday in our tongue) day of Gods 4th commandment, instead keep a different day?
Do you maybe believe (and even teach) that there will be a 7 year tribulation, a new temple built and some bad guy named "the antichrist" will rule from it?
How many of us are there here?
its real that pagan influences permeated the catholic church during that era. no doubt about it
but the gospel is more than celebrating this or that holiday. just because they syncretized doesnt mean that all or most of their theology was bad or erroneous
that's just silly, as i pointed to you the apostles believed and teached in the Godhead and even in earlier books like genesis there are hints at the plurality of god within his unity
>1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
see the trinity there. god created the heavens and the earth and his spirit moved upon the face of the waters.
tell me, how god which is a spirit would have his spirit moving upon the face of the waters? also see the light there? who is the light of men??
>John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
>Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
see the son of God coming with the ancient of days? that's the pre-incarnate christ
> Psalms 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
> Isaiah 63:10 ¶ But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
old testament mentioning the holy spirit. you are in the wrong here.
there is a GODhead, same god with different personality. partaking of the same substance. 1 god in 3 the holy persons immutable, holy, eternal and true
one more point, there are jews (few of them) have have noticed this plurality in God thus they drive themselves crazy with the Kabbalistic interpretations for this point.
Since you dodged my yes or no questions for a long rant, let me just point out one thing you said and leave it at that.
You said God said "let there be light". Then you said...
>also see the light there? who is the light of men??
Well, Jesus is the light of men. So you are admitting that God called forth/brought forth/begot His Son from Himself?
Well said. Since that is what the scriptures testify. Jesus was brought forth out from His Father before anything else existed.
Which means, He was not a co-eternal "God" that always existed with His Father. Scripture testifies God brought (birthed) Him into existence.
You unintentionally spoke the truth.
Again though, a "yes or no" to the questions please. Not a rant or explanation of "why" you believe your doctrine.
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