Still waiting... You could prove you're moral and a man by admitting you're wrong. But you won't, will you? I've provided plenty of other comments here. And as you can see, I'm not the only one using valid definitions. Your refusal to man up only confirms you're a liar and immoral. Period. Communes are usually socialism, one of the few forms of socialism which can and does work. But only scales as large as you can individually know and trust all members. Which is why all forms of socialism at scale, natso included, is for dumb fucks.