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If that was me, that would be a dead cat. Admittedly I didn't realize they were deterred by gunfire. Nor do I know if that's universally true.

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Thing about gunfire is it attracts predators that are familiar with hunters. You shoot a gun in the wrong place you will have Bears and wolves and coyotes coming from miles to where you blasted. Brown Bears expect good when they arrive which is not a good setting for an introduction.

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Carry spare mags.

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Can you stop stalking my posts with your dumb bullshit lol

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Avoiding needing them is better if you’ve ever had a Bear encounter.

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everyone is deterred by bullets!

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I know bears can be pissed off by gun shots and enraged when hit. They do not universally deter animals. Especially if they are sick or defending young.

My father killed a black bear. Six shots, five to the head. It charged the whole way.

The guy in the video should have fired a warning shot the second he drew. If that didn't deter and it continued to close, you kill it.

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People have zero idea how dangerous black bears actually are. I lived in an area where bears would be prowling all around your house looking for food. And they are huge and you're not and if you are unlucky enough, they will tear you apart.

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Drop the camera and shoot properly.

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Mountain lions are ambush predators. I think most folks killed by them are found to have been attacked from behind.

The way it was acting it looked pissed off. Just seems like odd behavior.

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This. They will stalk you for miles without you knowing if you don’t know any better. They also are much less prone to strike if they know you know. They will keep stalking to catch you off guard later but if they think you are aware of them that alone can be a large deterrent because they are not actually that tough. If I got lucky enough I know I could kill a small one with my hands. it’d fuck me up good too but they can be a lot smaller than people realize. And they do fear us. For good reasons. I confronted one in Idaho and the second they see a large Aryan ready to go they weigh how hungry they really are. Best thing you can do is offer your weak arm, let them clamp down and then stab the fuck out of their face and neck as hard and fast as you can like how they train marines to handle dogs.

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Best thing you can do is offer your weak arm, let them clamp down

Best thing you can do is shoot them.

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This is common behavior when protecting young or extremely hungry.

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If you are around large predators, do NOT depend on a handgun. They do not hit hard enough and can be unreliable. Get a fucking semi-auto rifle or shotgun large caliber like an AR10 or a mossberg 940 tactical shotgun. You can magdump a 9 or 10mm into a Bear and still get killed. You can blast a fucking bear with intermediate rounds and it will keep coming. .300 Win Mag is the smallest I would trust my life with. .270 is adequate but if you have ever dealt with a big brown bear you won’t fucking waste your time. They MOVE and have no fear. They will fucking eat you alive like nothing. Trust me, get a 12ga semi-auto with brenneke slugs and do not fuck around with a handgun. Dudes with 10mms get killed thinking it’s enough. It’s not. They have a ton of skin, fat and bone and you do not have time to screw around. By the time you see a Bear it’s already very late.

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Sounds like fuddlore. Plenty of data showing even small-caliber handguns are effective most of the time:

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/

Not an animal alive that has bulletproof hide or bones, and none on land that have 15" of blubber to stop a round. As always, shot placement is more important than caliber, and accuracy is most easily achieved through volume of fire. Mag size will serve you better than muzzle energy per bullet.

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That’s funny. All my data came from Western states and Alaska with actual cases of Bear attack encounters. Since the increase in Brown Bear attacks over the last decade anyone in the outdoors doace knows about and discusses. Considering my Uncle is a hunting guide around Idaho, maybe it is just fuddlore about the actual dead people with 10mm pistols who shot the Brown Bear and still died. Idk man. Maybe Steven Rinella was just overhyping it amd had game wardens on to trick us you’re right dude.

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Meow! Mirror anyone?

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I've got liberal brainwashed family members who have seen moutain lions in their back yard, the only firearm they own is a glock 19 or maybe the .40 equivalent.

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That was actually fascinating to watch that cat approach and then prepare to attack. I've seen housecats do the same things when playing or in actual fights.

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I have hiked in Colorado many, many times. Even in country with signs designating it a mountain lion risk, I have NEVER seen one come out in a open field in daylight like this. Part of the reason the cat keeps advancing is the man keeps moving away. It seems counterintuitive and takes balls of steel, but you're supposed to HOLD YOUR GROUND and NOT RETREAT. Then make noise and act as big as you can, raising your hands, grabbing sticks, etc. Having a gun would also help. I lived in mountain community where the game warden told us if we saw a certain mountain lion, SHOOT TO KILL because it started leaving deer and dog carcasses, not because it was hungry, but just because it enjoyed hunting. That was a rare occurrence.

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Please correct me if this is wrong:

I thought you're supposed to stand your ground and "make yourself big and scary" to these cats. I thought backing away only tells the cats you're afraid of them and makes them want to attack more.

Yes or no?

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Or, any where else.