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Amazon must have a fetish for ruining good fantasy content. They did it with LOTRs and WoT too? Fuck them. I watched half of the first episode of WoT and it was shit. I could tell it was going to be shit within the first 5 minutes. The author is very descriptive of how he describes the women's clothing. Moiraine, like most women in the novels, is wearing dresses. Yet in the series she is wearing pants. Like wtf... I can already tell this is going to be trash.

It's annoying because a good adaptation of these novels would be awesome and could run for many many seasons given the length of the series, but no, they had to fucking ruin it.

Amazon must have a fetish for ruining good fantasy content. They did it with LOTRs and WoT too? Fuck them. I watched half of the first episode of WoT and it was shit. I could tell it was going to be shit within the first 5 minutes. The author is very descriptive of how he describes the women's clothing. Moiraine, like most women in the novels, is wearing dresses. Yet in the series she is wearing pants. Like wtf... I can already tell this is going to be trash. It's annoying because a good adaptation of these novels would be awesome and could run for many many seasons given the length of the series, but no, they had to fucking ruin it.

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I initially like the books, but around The Lords of Chaos or whatever book it was, I had to stop. The women were too annoying and controlling, got power too easy and never had any actual comeuppance at that point. Even when the princess pulled a legendary heroine from the cycle of reincarnation into the real world and literally changed it so she would never live with her also reincarnating husband ever again in eternity and the Heroine just goes "well, alright then, guess I'm gonna be your bodyguard" I gave up. The Male-Ran Church being moustache twirling Evil AND misogynist was just eye rolling. And that's just a few things that led to me giving up on the books.

Make no mistake, they're wonderfully written and paint a world quite well. But that world is female empowerment out the ass and I don't couldn't stand it after a point.

But yes, fuck Amazon for everything they have ever done.

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So far I feel the two genders are handled well. The women are shown as capable and able to lead, but it isn't done by making the men look stupid.

The women are always portrayed as feminine and if one isn't such as Min, it is describe as highly unusual, I like that. I have read that some dislike the books because of this and how the women are often easy to swoon over the male characters. I see that side as well.

It's awesome how none seem to trust the aes sedai, be wary of women! lol

I do get the female empowerment though. I can see it, but it isn't to the point that it is bothering me. I'll have to wait and see if it becomes annoying to where I stop with the series. Thanks for the spoiler warning, I'm going to leave that unread for now.

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Spoilers are spoiled, but read at your own risk.

Eh, the women get way too fucking uppity real quick and act like the men are all retarded and need to be treated like children, while the Men are trying to keep themselves afloat because holy fuck does the world have it out for them. The women characters treat the men like they have it easy and are goofing off despite the fact that one's trying to keep his sanity while dodging the women who would kill/enslave/lobotomize him, the other has to gather and lead an army with all the logistics and stress thereof.

Meanwhile, the women characters from the initial village are elevated to high positions of power really quickly, get tons of support and are very quick learners for their magic, they do things they're told specifically not to do with the magics of the setting and get rewarded for it almost instantly (compared to the men, who have to fight tooth and nail for damn near any progress in any skill and they usually nearly die in the process) all while complaining how hard they have it and how stupid the men all are and that it would all just be okay if the men obeyed the women. In fact, almost every major woman character up to the point I stopped besides Min the seeress blames men for every ill they face..

Like I said, it just got to the point where I gave up. I couldn't handle it anymore. It just kept building and building and finally I just put the book down and never picked it back up. Doesn't help that I remember reading somewhere that Robert Jordan thought that this is exactly how male/female dynamics should go, with the woman being dominant, controlling harridans and men subservient to them.

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Robert Jordan thought that this is exactly how male/female dynamics should go, with the woman being dominant, controlling harridans and men subservient to them

What a simp.

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One of the worst adaptations ever. From the casting on, it was terribly done. Great book series, though.

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It's a fucking slog around book 6 or 7 though.

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I'm halfway though "The Shadow Rising" not there yet.

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The worst part is when they're looking for the Bowl of the Winds or whatever it's called. 90% of that book could be cut with no detriment to the story.

The good news is once you're past that lull it just keeps getting better.

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Yeah, there are quite a few meandering plot lines that could have been trimmed...

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From the casting on

The race mixing was really bad. In the books it was clear that people from different areas looked different. Game of Thrones did this right. I don't see how that is so hard to get right. Another issue was the over sexualization.

I'm halfway through "The Shadow Rising" and I've been enjoying it.

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Only 10 more to go!

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lmao. So long the original author died before it was finished :)