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and why is the fucking web browser gobbling up 8+GB of RAM all the fucking time? computers back then didn't even have that much RAM... and it was faster....

and why is the fucking web browser gobbling up 8+GB of RAM all the fucking time? computers back then didn't even have that much RAM... and it was faster....

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[–] 28 pts

Because 47 other URLs are being loading on that 1 page, whatever it is...for CDN contents, for syndication, for tracking, for 3rd party UI tools, etc etc etc.

[–] 20 pts

Best website to prove your point.

http://motherfuckingwebsite.com

[–] [deleted] 7 pts

Risky click if I've ever seen one

[–] 5 pts

I'm tarded and plowed right in. It seems legit, is very funny and is truth.

[–] 2 pts

You're not wrong. Especially since it's not https, and there is no www sub domain. I understand the hesitation. It's just a meme site with text though.

[–] -1 pt

www is not a subdomain, it's the server name you simpleton.

[–] 3 pts

At the bottom, he has the joogle tracking script...

[–] 0 pt

Honestly never looked at the code of the site. Makes sense that it would have ((())) tracking, I'm guessing they are an NPC still.

[–] 0 pt

Why do visitors need to be tracked?

This reminds me of physical stores (RIP) and the cops (sadly, not RIP) using what amount to fake cell phone/wifi/bluetooth networks to track customers in their stores.

[–] 0 pt

Is there another option to easily track site visitors? I can't think of one.

[–] 12 pts

Because idiot software developers think their website is better if they use a bunch of awesome frameworks. 99% of what you download you don't actually use. Also because software developers are idiots they don't know how to optimize their pages correctly and even when they do they can't seem to focus on the things with the right orders of magnitude they spent all f****** year optimizing some stupid s*** that doesn't matter because they are f****** idiots.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Most dev is happening in India now too so there's that. I deal with a few enterprise software solutions that are riddled with bugs and they can't fix them. I know it's cuz they outsourced it to a bunch of constantly rotating pajeet devs .

[–] 4 pts

While the pajeets are certainly a contributing factor, I doubt they are the ones deciding to use 10 MB of Javascript to display 1 KB of text. Those decisions are almost certainly being made by the same kind of people who think living in San Francisco is a good idea. They have no taste and no dignity; they worship whatever is held up as good by their favorite shills/lunatics on the Internet. I'm starting to think it's a status thing. They gain status among their peers by using trendy frameworks and development techniques, not by making things that people like to use. Gaining status helps them get money from (((venture capitalists))), which they then use to build entire companies based on their terrible judgement. The result is an endless parade of useless companies that go nowhere, plus a few that manage to provide a sufficiently useful service that lots of people use them, but the user experience sucks because of all the bad decisions.

This spreads beyond SF through the legions of wannabe SF devs all across the world. These people read Hacker News like my father used to read the local paper. They desperately want to become those clowns dodging human feces as they walk from their wildly overpriced apartments to their soul-destroying jobs, so they try to build any websites they are responsible for in the same manner. They likely daydream about giving a talk at some pointless conference and getting noticed by the aforementioned (((VCs))) so they can build whatever equally pointless company they have in mind.

How do I know? I almost became one of these people. I used to watch the startup scene with great interest. I interviewed at a company in San Francisco. (I didn't get the job, fortunately.) I read Hacker News every day. I read every essay by Paul Graham. I guess it was my incurable intolerance for shoddy or disgusting design that kept me from going over the edge. Node.js in particular was a bridge too far.

This is probably a side effect of the broader trend of turning one's brain off and letting the TV (or equivalent) tell one what to think. What's the difference between using a horrible language and the even more horrible framework du jour because the "experts" tell you to use them and wearing two masks because the "experts" told you to do it? You even get the same retarded flip-flopping, e.g. "JAVASCRIPT BAD" becomes "JAVASCRIPT GOOD" and "RIOTS GOOD" becomes "RIOTS BAD". It's all symptoms of the same underlying societal sickness.

[–] 0 pt

They gain status among their peers by using trendy frameworks and development techniques

I believe that they're all taught this. Asking a modern javascript developer to develop without using a trendy third-party hosted library is like asking a negress to read cursive.

The result is an endless parade of useless companies that go nowhere

Yep. And they all have retarded names that, as a rule, cannot in any way convey what the company actually does.

[–] 2 pts

This is true. I worked at a company and they had a SQL Storage Procedure that had a bug the developer couldn't solve, so they fixed it by canceling out the bug which introduced new problems. 3,000 lines of SQL mess all because someone walked up to the bartender and asked where the bathroom was.

The Pakistani developed website was even worse as the search allowed for SQL injection. Hello, Little Bobby Tables...

[–] 1 pt

It's not my framework that's fucking you over, it's the designer. My framework allows me to do just about anything with 5 lines of code and it will load almost instantly. When you apply all the CSS, unoptimized images and JavaScript shit from the designer is when it takes 10 mins to load.

[–] 0 pt

agreed - and then you have more fucking morons, like google, that recommend CDNs and take away internet points on your speed test if you don't add another point of failure in the stack

[–] [deleted] 6 pts (edited )

You can thank google and facebook.

Google has total control with chrome browsing being used for the majority of web browsers. So much so that web devs are being told it is best practice to code their websites specifically optimized for chrome. They also implemented tracking from everything to page position to mouse position to pages / words / links clicked. Then it saves what font color size position of the things you interacted with.

Facebook created the react programing language which is the most commonly used language for dynamic web pages. For non tech people think that the website has to constantly be in connection with the database in order to dynamically chance elements (things you interact with) in real time (notice things change before you submit anything).

They also have their own spy software as well as other NSA companies like social media integration which also have their spy software.

Back then you only used HTML and CSS, very light and easily processed languages because most computers did not have the processing power or memory that we do today due to the declining cost of CPU's and RAM.

Combine that with the fact that people consider themselves software "engineers" without understanding any big O or memory constraints. Most computers can run 2ghz and have 4gb ram. People submit garbage bloated code because the industry no longer cares about quality but only how quickly you can get a shit product online. Usually the CEO of the week is paid in stock options based on how quickly they can get a product online and creating revenue. All they want to do is get their options before the product breaks, sell and upgrade to the next job leaving the next manager with an unstable, broken nightmare.

[–] 1 pt

A minor clarification: React is not a language but a framework for Javascript. It includes a "syntax extension" for Javascript called JSX which combines Javascript and HTML, thus proving that two wrongs do not, in fact, make a right.

Yeah my bad. You are correct. I realized I fucked that up after I wrote it but I only like editing spelling mistakes. I work with ML and AI so front end really isn't my thing haha.

[–] 0 pt

I do mainly sysadmin stuff, so my knowledge of React comes from the last time I tried to make a modern webapp. I gave up in disgust. Simple HTML and simple JS is bearable, if I really have to do it. The teetering tower of crud that is modern web development is just too much for me.

OMG I found my boss on poal.

j/k, you sound just like him tho. Pretty based coder.

I gasped when you said "doesnt understand big O"

[–] 0 pt

without understanding any big O

Spoken like a true Boomer dev

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

Wrong. It was not faster. It was slow as fuck. However, websites are slower compared to an earlier period in computing. This is because all the websites are fucking bloated, and filled with spying tools, and lots of garbage to maximize profits.

[–] 3 pts

The answer is an ungodly amount of bloat and scripts/trackers.

[–] 2 pts

ads

[–] 1 pt

How else will I know there are horny young women in my area that want to have sex with me?

[–] 0 pt

Who runs the advertising companies?

[–] 0 pt

The 4 big ones that control 95% of all ads? You know who

[–] 1 pt

Pages did not load faster on a dial up connection, that's a fucking lie

[–] 1 pt

Use brave on Linux

I never felt anything is slow, even on 10+ year old laptops

Bit maybe I'm just slow, and thus don't notice

[–] 1 pt

You aren't running NoScript along with uBlock Origin and using a browser that has lazy developers.

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