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Nicotine causes weight loss and has strong anti-depressant effects.

I don't think I'm ever going to diet again. At most you can yoyo your weight on a diet, but it always seems to come back. Nicotine takes it off and it doesn't come back, at least while you're still using nicotine.

The whole argument that diet causes obesity is questionable to me. I think it's more likely there's something poisonous in junk food that permanently damages people's ability to regulate weight. Weight is regulated by the hypothalamus, so there could be something poisonous in the food that damages the brain and that's the underlying cause of the obesity epidemic.

Here's something I noticed in the past. If I ate junk food from the grocery store I gained weight from it readily. If I made junk food from scratch, I didn't gain weight from it. It seems clear to me there's something in the premade food that shouldn't be in it, maybe it's a preservative, a food coloring, or something else.

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Yea there's something in it that makes you eat more of it, probably something that simply makes it taste better than the stuff you make yourself.

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causes

No. Be extremely careful with that word. Nicotine is an appetite suppressant, that's what it is; it leads to weight loss, but that's only correlative, not causal.

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one of the single most important things is to do some level of fasting... whether it's simply not eating a thing between dinner and breakfast or stretching that window out to 16 hours. The intensity of exercise is just as important as the duration. You're never going to get ripped by walking... you need to do sprints.

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When you're 500lbs, your "walking" is probably more intense than a normal person's "sprinting" tbh. They may not get ripped but a lot of people would start losing weight if only they did the bare minimum.

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Seems like a retarded question along with a retarded assumption. Body composition is driven by hormones now? wtf... cico is a relative figure ...okay so? What's your point?!

Try expressing yourself coherently.

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What do you think governs body composition? What’s the point of performance enhancing drugs if they don’t influence body composition. The cico balance for someone with 20% body fat is very different than cico for someone with 10% body fat. Both could have the exact same calories in and the resting metabolism would burn more fat of the 10% individual.

Stop being a retarded faggot and pretending cico doesn’t have subtly- especially when co is relative to body composition.

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Well duh, probably because they have more muscle and muscles burn more calories? That's such a pointless distinction. You're probably over-complicating things because you're fat and looking for a way out.

What’s the point of performance enhancing drugs if they don’t influence body composition.

What's the relation with your post?! Does that mean hormones drive body comp? Of course not you retard.

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All I got from your wall of gibberish is that you’re an idiot.

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The cico balance for someone with 20% body fat is very different than cico for someone with 10% body fat.

All else equal the BMR is equal.

BMR is what your body would burn if you were to be in bed ALL day doing LITERALLY NOTHING. The issue you'll likely find is that BMR calculators don't equate by way of the body's proportion of fat or muscle. Muscle take calories to exist, simply to exist - even not using them, whereas fat doesn't. Someone who has 50 pounds of muscle will have the same BMR as that identical person who weighs 200 more pounds but who also has 50 pounds of muscle.

What you're thinking of TDEE which incorporates daily activities into the estimation - thus Total Daily Energy Expenditure.

CICO is a fundamental rule. There is nothing confusing about it. Nothing. You eat 500 more calories than you burn per day and you WILL gain 1 pound of adipose tissue in 7 days. That isn't up for debate.

metabolism

Sigh. Metabolism is created by way of one's own choice. By way of what one does. Fatties don't just have garbage metabolisms by way of unluck. Fatties have garbage metabolisms by way of being lazy hamplanets, by way of living inactive lifestyles.

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diet and exercised

instead of body comp

What?

The former leads to the latter. I'm confused by the question.

Cal in / Cal out

AKA CICO - Is a rule, it is nothing more. It's like the force of gravity [F=G((m1*m2)/r2)].

% muscle

Is just a result. Nothing more.

You use diet - by way of managing calories through CICO - and exercise to obtain a goal muscle %.

That process is called body recomposition. Body recomp is easy and hard. It's confusing as fuck but once you get it: you get it. It's extremely different per individual so any two people are likely not going to obtain the same (or close to) results from similar actions.

Body recomposition is to the goal of <10% BF, >50% MM%

as strength training is to the goal of 2plate bench, 3 plate squat, 4 plate deadlift.

They're means to an ends.

e:

Also don't fall for the intermittent fasting meme. CICO is king and all that matters. When you eat it is irrelevant. With the exception of if you are actually in the literal top of the world's athletes, only then does macro timing to specific meals and workouts matter.

Otherwise just eat.

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it depends on your position in the process

calories in vs calories out is just a law of thermodynamics, you are not photosynthesising aftercall burn more energy than you expend and you will lose weight

hormones are driven by a load of factors and one of them is body comp, you have that backwards

body recomp is not just a meme, you just eat a slight calories deficit while working to build muscle and eating a load of protein

if you want to really get down to bodybuilder levels of body fat you may need to switch to intermittent fasting

if you are super fat you should look in to keto