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As you can see with the elevation angle, it's not on the horizon like the one they wanted to stick me on.

By the way, the dude was a private installer. He did other systems as well, not just HughesNet. For better or worse, he was driving a fairly modern truck that looked to be in good condition. So, he must be doing well enough financially. I'd say it was in the 40k (when new) region. Probably 25 used. It looked to be around a 2015 Ford F150. Maybe 2016.

So, if he can afford that, he must be making acceptable money.

I was really impressed that he invested like 4 hours the first day. That was because of the software issue and them wanting to put me on a different satellite.

I think he might have said '22' for the other satellite. I'm not positive, so don't quote me on it.

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It's been years since I did satellite dish installations but back when I was doing that stuff the independent installers would get residual payments every month for every new customer that they brought online and installed. If you can get a lot of people to switch over and they keep the service you get extra money. I didn't do that cause I really do not like selling shit to people

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He didn't make any effort (any real effort) to upsell or anything. He did ask if we'd rather cellular or Starlink (as he installs them both) when we couldn't get it to use the satellite it's using now, but that was not really an effort to sell anything - he was just seeing if we'd like to explore other options and he never went into any details or anything like that.

I pointed out his own lack of cellular service (a bar or two, at best) and laughed about the idea of a cellular hotspot. I already have a phone that does that as well as any other system is going to do it, at least not without buying (real, and expensive) cell phone signal boosters. Even then, we barely have enough signal to boost and it often drops to zero bars.

But, we signed up through their website. They sent the independent installer. I don't know, but it seems unlikely that he'll get residuals in this case. I don't mind if he does. In fact, it'd be great if he did. He wasted a full four hours here on the first day. The second day he was in and out - but that's 'cause my house makes it REALLY fucking simple. There's CAT6 running through conduit all around the house. Punch through anywhere, terminate the CAT6, and you can drop your equipment anywhere you want. I picked the installation location because that one had a separate channel (CAT6) that runs to a central area of the house. It made the most sense to put the router near the center of the house. Then, run a second line to the barn that has the shop in it. After that, you're done. He was done in like an hour.

I have repeaters but the signal is good enough without using them. As we start spending time outside, I may hook a couple up to cover the front porch, balcony, and lawn.

Hmm... If you're not terribly busy, you could click a couple of ads for me. ;-)