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He left his supporters high and dry in Jan 6, he folded like a cheap slut on gun bans to liberals, he intentionally did not prosecute the Clintons even though he said he would, he played money magic man similar to Biden. What exactly is Trump going to do that's ANY better than what's currently going on? Is it just misplaced hope and optimism or something? It makes no sense

He left his supporters high and dry in Jan 6, he folded like a cheap slut on gun bans to liberals, he intentionally did not prosecute the Clintons even though he said he would, he played money magic man similar to Biden. What exactly is Trump going to do that's ANY better than what's currently going on? Is it just misplaced hope and optimism or something? It makes no sense

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He's the first US president since Reagan who spoke about actually making the US better. That's all it takes.

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Trump wasn't the best but yeah all it took was to give people just the slightest hint that he was actually working with their interests in mind. Almost every single politician these days is clearly only out for themselves or the party.

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Who spoke somewhat convincingly about making the US better. Enough that folks -- well, the more intelligent ones anyway -- had to wait to see if he would deliver. For the less clued-in ones it was enough to just be able to say it convincingly.

There's not been a Pres in my lifetime (timeframe: Carter +) who was even remotely convincing.

There's not been a Pres in my lifetime (timeframe: Carter +) who was even remotely convincing.

I was born in the LBJ Era and can say the same thing. The most amusing fact about all the presidents of my lifetime is that Nixon was the most communist president yet few know it. Go study what Nixon actually put in place and did and you'll see and we've had Clinton and Obama.

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Trump started with good intentions, but was hamstrung. Apart from being sabotaged at every step by his own chief of staff, who was working for the Dems from day one, all the fags in the white house kept trashing his notices, and doing everything they could to fuck him over. And thats just the small stuff. The entire intelligence community *(ie deep state) was against him..theres no way in hell he could move against the Clintons, who are untouchable even now with irrefutable evidence of crimes a mile long. No, Trump wasnt great, but the signs were there that he was trying.

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The way the entire media and political apparatus worked overtime to discredit and undermine him from the moment he declared his candidacy tells me that, at the very least, he was not working for the prominent powers that be. They clearly feared him. That was probably because they could not control him. This wasn’t just the control over legacy and social media maturing. There was a sharp change between Barak Obama’s presidency and Trump’s. The way the media went non stop with the lies and censorship was unprecedented.

He was clearly not working for the prominent powers that be. I saw no clear signs that he was consolidating power with some conglomerate of his own. It looked like he was working toward the mutual interests of himself and the USA.

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I agree entirely. Trump ran the country like a business. A lot of people didnt like that, but he did a good job. Its just too bad he didnt completely ruin the WHO...

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I doubt if anyone that is super rich and born into wealth thinks the same way as the average working man/woman. I don't like Donald Trump necessarily but I think he was overall a good president for this very f* up country. I also think he learned that politicians are a different level of scum than rich business men.

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Yes he ran it like a business, which is frankly, most important.

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The media literaly turning into demons and attacking him was proof enough to me he was not completely controlled opposition... he was maybe a usefull idiot they knew how to make manipulate but I don't think he was in on the plan or he was threatened at one point

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The fact that he built a fucking wall alone puts him leagues above anyone else. That’s not even counting the fact that he killed NAFTA, told Iran to go fuck itself, and made the cucked Euros pay into NATO for once.

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Great points... he had someone inside the millitary on his side for sure which was weird kinda crazy.. I'm not saying Q was real but when that general or admiral told him his office was bugged that was not a deep state move or part of their plan.

I watched the 3 hour investigation of the Clinton foundation 3 times... mark meadows is a fucking deep state gatekeeper and protected the clintons.Clinton's.. fucker tried getting the investigators to reveal their inside source in the Clinton foundation... u could almost see them laughing almost saying what and get them killed at the least their proffesional life would have been over...

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He is his own worst enemy sometimes. Says he hires the 'best people' then appoints John Bolton? What????

What Paul Ryan and other republicans did to Trump was criminal. They completely sabotaged his agenda.

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How do you reconcile it with Jan the 6th and vaxxine shilling?

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What? Jan 6... Im not sure there is anything to comment on for the actual day. Or do you mean in the days after? After, he said exactly the truth, in that he did nothing wrong and that it was just another beat-up. Vaxxine...he saw a disease and promoted the cure. Given he had no intelligence insiders Id say he had zero information that it was a fauci job.

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muh Jan 6

You mean the completely jew-fabricated glow event?

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If the videos of him telling people to get vaxxed were fabricated why Trump didn't speak out about it? Who fabricated them, jews? Oh no w8 5d chess amirite?

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US was #1 exporter of energy in the world. Southern border was under control. Foreign megalomaniacs ( Kim, Putin) realized there was a serious person in the White House. ZERO US casualties in Afghanistan in 18 MONTHS!

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And the second biden steps in it all was unraveled at amazing speed and the Afghanistan debacle was an a solute embarrassment leading to American troops dying and civilians left behind and 85 billion in arms left to our enemy... then on top of that retard biden has innocent Afghanistan drone struck and killed including kids and th3 (((media))) gave him a pass on all of it

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when everything they do is wrong theyre doing it on purpose.

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havent seen you on here for a while.

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Had a girl lined up to have kids.. white kids then she ghosted me. I'm full on depression diet lifting running doing all the typical heart broken shit... and here was a place I used to waste a lot of time.. I'm also moving forward in trying to homestead while looking for another white woman to have kids.. turning 47 not gonna be easy...

So I should be back here more promoting same stuff. White people getting their shit together and actually doing stuff not just batching about it

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Despite his failure to prosecute, make lasting change, or surround himself with people of high moral character, he is who the people chose and they were cheated out of their choice. He may not have accomplished much, but he served as a patriot and was one of the few that did it for the love of his country instead of a love for wealth. He may be a fool, but he started a movement of the disillusioned and until someone else moves into the leadership role out of duty instead of profit, people will continue to follow him.

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Despite his failure to prosecute,

How do you prosecute with a corrupt DOJ and FBI?

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he destroyed it all by falling for the covid hoax and becoming a full-fledged vaccine salesman for a whole year instead of acting as the president of what should be the greatest nation on Earth.

he's a failure and can operation go fuck himself.

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Absolutely. But until someone fills the void, he's the leader they chose and were denied.

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I don't think it is Trump as it is the idea of America first. He had some good ideas, delivered on some, but fucked up most of it.

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Trump shredded the presidential ambitions of two of the most vile corrupt deep state politicians of our time: Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Just for that, he did a great service to the country and deserves honor. His term in office was disappointing in many ways but he did keep more liberals off the supreme court.

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Trump has and continues to make questionable decisions. But the thing about Trump is that he is very responsive to what people think/ the “mainstream” talking points. So it is up to us, and the people that lead the true America first movement to shape the conversation abd not let him get too complacent and neocon. Because Trump has good instincts, but we need to re-energize the fighting spirit that he had in the beginning of his first candidacy. I don’t support trump in a cheerleader fashion like a lot of people do, I have just accepted that he is the face of the conservative movement at present and know that we need to do our best to lead the way so that the main stream movement follows

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“he intentionally did not prosecute the Clintons”

Yeah because he was the president, not the AG. You do know that presidents don’t prosecute people, right?

Apart from that, no he certainly wasn’t perfect in either policy or anything else.

However, he was the best we’ve had since Reagan.

You ask how it would be any different between he and Biden? WTF are you smoking dude?

Have you been living under a rock since Biden took office? There’s a stark fucking difference between how shit was under Trump and now. The fact that someone has to tell you that is alarming in of itself.

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Yeah because he was the president, not the AG.

good thing he hand selected well known deep state AGs then, yeah?

fucking jeff sessions? william barr?

this isn't a defense of trump. he could have selected someone that actually cares about justice, and he didn't.

and yeah, shit is fucked now and biden is worse. but trump didn't help anything when he fell for the covid hoax, allowed himself to get ass fucked by fauci/gates/big pharma while acting as a vaccine salesman for a year as president.

without the covid hoax, the election isn't even able to be rigged to install biden as president. but trump failed.

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Criticism for picking the wrong AG is fair, sure.

On the other hand, none of us knew those guys were shitheads, either.

In any case, the president doesn’t prosecute anyone, that was my main point.

If he were to pick a known DS operative as AG, that would be one thing.

Not sure how he would have known though.

Many of the criticisms of Trump really amount to criticizing him for not having a crystal ball.

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he selected swamp creatures after promising to drain the swamp.

he could have chosen someone who, at the time, had a fire under their ass for justice like a trey gowdy.

but he went with faggot sessions and CIA billy barr. it doesn't take a crystal ball to know those were two impotent choices with the latter not just being impotent but also an enemy.

he could have not given billions of our tax dollars to pharmaceutical companies to create poison to allegedly attempt to cure a cold. did it really take a crystal ball to see that covid was bullshit? did it really?

anyone with any form of logic center should have realized by april 2020 that locking down hundreds of millions of people would have far more devastating and reaching effects than a nasty cold.

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He's the best president since nixon and if he had a full 8 years even with all the jew dick sucking he would have been the best president in living memory.

What you're really asking is why have people been so quick to forget and forgive his transgressions, and you answered your own question, people need to believe things could be better in a time with such a bleak outlook and so in the recent past who was in charge or responsible for waxing fortunes? Trump.

People are overloaded with too much information, trump's transgressions fall to the wayside in the face of all the fresh new horrors which have walked triumphantly into the light since he left office, by comparison he was an angel.

Ultimately there is a singular unspoken and unpopular truth that drives support for trump, it's the same reason our enemies are fanatical about importing foreigners. how energetic are a people a movement, individuals, a society, a culture or subculture, a political scene or alignment; trump is the locus of rightwing energy in america, trying to supercede him without a higher energy base is impossible and a strategy for losing any future elections which would hasten our collapse and build up forces against us to prevent any reformation. The energetic and those who conserve their energy efficiently are the ones who win in conflict and the right and the west is losing it's energy, it has been for 3 generations our problem is low energy and poor conservation of our energy. Building energy in the broader movement has become nearly impossible because of the didactic controls our enemy has over the web, media, corporations and government it's why they vehemently oppose those things which cause individuals to become energetic and drive natural conservative behaviors, it's why thy oppose weightlifting and abstaining from masturbation and porn, why they support food trends that make you lethargic or demoralized and do not support natural food and actively oppose the growth of heirloom genetic lines without modern weed and insect poisons, it's why they support degenerative vices like alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, fattening foods, lack of exercise, stubborn unearned self righteousness and self gratification, hook-up culture, hopium and copium, nostalgia and fear of the future, superstition and mysticism, childlessness, obsession with entertainment and and why they want to to keep you from making enough money to face down the question of what to build and what to leave behind.

Demoralizing you is about draining your energy, they don't just do this with psychological strategies they are chemically tainting you to reduce your energy levels to demoralize you and make or keep you passive while they and their proxies and agents act.

If you want to energize our movement and overcome the rightwing dependency on trump it needs many things, and we are starving it currently, our movement needs a future, it needs hope for the future, pipedreams though may have the opposite effect, our movement needs a pipeline for reinforcement to gain momentum, it needs victories and openly named enemies, it needs true believers and therefore a concrete plan or the gist of one or at least a well understood picture of our desired future.

My recommendation? Get comfortable on the trump train and make some friends, we'll need allies when the train gets to the end of the line, at every stop on the line try to get new people on the train so we may get even more allies, don't try to undermine trump unless he goes totally off the rails in a bad way, constantly undermine everyone around him so that they cannot form a dynasty but avoid making this look like infighting and don't do this to the point that trump would lose face. We need to be poised to win a power struggle for the future of the broader movement in under 18 months from the time that the current political dynamic sees trump in the rear view, this means we need sleepers in the RNC, GOP, any media we can get, and trump's organization.

Before I continue I'm sure anybody reading this thinks this all sounds too ambitious or is at least confused about the context of "the broader movement" and that right there is why we are stuck on or with trump.

Formulating long term political strategy when most people here believe we will all be crushed under the imminently falling sky is probably fruitless so I'll give more practical and general advice for our social situation, for the practical situation get your self survival oriented and train if you want to live, if you want the white race to live on in america after this century, bleed every ounce of political capitol that you can from our enemies as shamelessly as you can, constantly point out obvious failures of theirs and the negative consequences of their actions, ally yourself with the truth and do not try to use lies to win, it ultimately undermines our greatest strength, a tacit alignment with reality which is obvious by virtue of common sense and gives us free new recruits from every generation. If you want to do more than survive as a race but you want to thrive this means we need an energetic popular movement and that means converting the low energy NPC and normies, do this by appealing to their base interests and their degeneracy and in doing this trick the males into building up testosterone enough to wake them from their sleep walking and be prepared with the redpill when they become lucid, use the neurolinguistics programing installed by our enemies to drive their herds to our pastures, in explicit terms recreate the conditions that led us here today.

What conditions brought us here? Why do poal and voat exist? reddit censorship, reddit censor ship was ramped up to moderate a rightwing awakening that was evidenced through gamergate but sparked by a masculine resurgence in a feminized portion of society, feminized western males adopted weightlifting, diet, and the pursuit of women, over rotting at home playing videogames, this was sparked on 4chan by the no-fap challenge, this wasn't a test of male vigor or moral fortitude, it was merely a 30 day period to reset your dopamine tolerance like a pot fiend will do to make indulging even sweeter. It woke up countless young men on the path to ruin and birthed what later would be called the alt-right.

In short, tell every degenerate porn addict you can get your hands across the english speaking web that they will bust the biggest and most enjoyable nut in their lives if they can make it just thirty days without cumming, make a trend of it find the old no fap calendars and distribute one for this coming September, highschool and college porn addicts will be massively motivated by their breeding instincts when they see their female classmates in the new light of their higher testosterone levels, this is the creation of energy, harnessing it would come next but our proximity to truth means they will find their way to use as their newfound energy drives them to learn how to achieve their goals, realizing the truth about women demolishes the liberal world view and instills a hatred for cucks, do not undermine the teachings of the pick up artist community nor MGTOW but do guide the young men away from MGTOW, as it only leads back to where they started. OG no-fap had 0 rules against getting laid, just no fapping. Motivate these young men to chase tail, most of them wont get any anyway what they will get is a series of harsh reality checks that motivate them away from our current societal decline.

I hope this wall post doesn't seem too abstract.

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What exactly is Trump going to do that's ANY better than what's currently going on?

You serious? You think trump wouldn’t do a better job than the controlled demolition currently going on?

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