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[–] 9 pts

Having very honest and clear expectations is the start. You should be aligned on Kids yes/no/how many, You should have clear financial goals and a idea on how to get there, Do you want to live near family? What are your political views especially around the ones that they tell you not talk about at family events.

Etc.. Just be aware that people change with time and most of those things could change too but if you are not starting out well aligned then the likelihood of lasting goes down quickly.

[–] 3 pts

Just be aware that people change with time and most of those things could change too

You absolutely do not tolerate that mindset in a partner when it comes to fundamental parts of the relationship like kids, financial goals, politics, etc. Because either they applied no reason and evidence to their core life decisions to begin with (aka they're a NPC), or they're using it as a bullshit excuse to blow up your marriage down the road.

Extraneous things like your hubby deciding to switch from playing golf every Tuesday to pickleball is no big deal, but they dont get to "change" their viewpoint on dealbreakers with time. Whether that's "surprise I dont want kids" or "I want to bang Becki the Wonderslut", that is absolutely unacceptable. Because if they tell you that, they're telling you that they think it's OK to unilaterally blow up the relationship.

[–] 3 pts

Yeah, That is a big part of life. I agree, you should be aligned on those specifically. On the other side, you can also find out that one of you are unable to have kids. If that happens, do you want to adopt or is it a deal breaker and you divorce?

You have to decide where your boundaries to compromise are and make them very clear.

Suppose we are super aligned on major points. Why wait?

[–] 7 pts

There could be a few reasons but I am sure you can figure those out yourself. I feel like we put off getting married for way to long but it was me doing it. When we decided to we just picked a day, scheduled time at the court house and took our families out to lunch after. We did a "reception" later in the year when there would be more time to plan and to invite people.

The only part that I say "wait a little while" is to take stock of experiences you have had already.

  1. Have you traveled somewhere (ideally far away where neither of you have ever been). This can put stress on the relationship in a way that shows both of you how you deal with the stress.
  2. Do you get along with each others family? You are marrying Her and the family (same the other way too).
  3. Do you have separate AND common interests? You both should have your own hobbies/interests but they should overlap in places you both consider important. Like, do you both really like camping? That is a good overlap.
  4. Do you enjoy each others company both talking and in silence? Looks fade but engaging conversation's do not need to assuming they have a good head on their shoulders and also #3.

These are all things I have suggested to friends that were trying to decide if they wanted to get married. The ones that listened are still married, the one that did not has been divorced for ~3 years now.

[–] 2 pts

For anyone looking, this is a great list. They can either follow it exactly now, or learn every point in this list is true the hard way.

[–] 1 pt

If you are so aligned have a conversation about this with her and ask her that exact question, general rule though, a proposal prior to 6 months is psychotic. I'd say a proposal anytime after a year of dating isn't too soon unless you are both under 20.

[–] 5 pts

Dating -> Living Together -> Engagement -> Marriage

Do not skip the living together part, trust me when I tell you that you don't really know the woman or until you've lived with her for at least a year, and neither does she know you. To be able to live with someone you will also have to make some compromises, no matter what. Both of you will have to see if you are able to live this way and will have to figure out if the other person is worth altering your current way of life to accommodate living together in marriage.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Cohabitation before marriage is sinful

[–] 3 pts

No it's not. Fucking before marriage is.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

That is assumed to be occurring in cohabitation.

[–] 1 pt

Compromise, get engaged first and drag it out for a year and either shack up or do a lot of travel together where you share hotel rooms.

Getting a taste of cohabitation is going to be important.

[–] 2 pts

This will probably be unpopular but, actually, I'm ok with this one. Living together tells you a lot about a person and if you can be around them (or they around you). I know that you are supposed to adapt to things and I have but I have read plenty of people ending up living with someone that was horrendous.

If it is something you want, have separate rooms. Do not "do the things" that is perfectly reasonable, respectable. In my case, I thought my wife's oddities were amusing apparently she felt the same about mine, others might find them irritating. That is for us though. She "puts up" with me more than I do her.

Many people may not agree with this but I do think living together lets you see someone more clearly. She saw me for who I am and I saw her for who she is.

This life is for you to live. Do your best.

I know you might not like this from what I posted before but such is life. You do what you think is right for you. Any suggestions I give are just what I have seen in life and maybe it helps somehow.

Oh I get it. Logic is sound. I wish I could do so with a clean conscience, but it doesn't sit right and I would regret it long-term.

As said, however, going on trips or spending weekends at each other's places is much more palatable.

Put it this way - looking out for her reputation is a means of loving them, even if we are holding up a standard long discarded. If we want the old ways back we must model them.

[–] 4 pts

Moved in together after a couple years, things went well. Proposed a few years later, things kept going well. Married on our ten year anniversary. Things are still going well about a year on now.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

You should not consider getting married before one year. It will take you that long to just get away from everything being novel with this person and past the puppy love.

You should not continue dating someone if you're not ready to marry them after three years. By then nothing is novel and if you aren't sure by then she ain't the one. The doesn't mean you must get married on day 1,096. But somewhere between one and two years you should figure out if this is someone you just like or someone you want as your wife, and then your engagement to be married should be that, a reasonable period to plan your wedding and merging of lives, not a forever period just calling yourself something other than dating but not married, but also not a zero period where no thought into how your lives will change has been made.

So date somewhere between one and two years. Then be engaged for somewhere between six months and little over a year. So you wife her up by roughly three years or you don't actually want her.

[–] 2 pts

depends on ur expectations. Marriage is one clusterfuck of a mixed bag at times.

What did you do and was it a good choice?

[–] 5 pts

I dated roughly 3 years b4 marriage but we both travelled a lot at the time. So that 3 years might be others one year? There is no reliable formula for happiness and marriage does overwhelmingly fuck men at this time in human history legally and socially in some respects (after the fact). Good trust > good pussy. You can't build a life w/ a hooker or a liar.

[–] 1 pt

Depends on your partner's fertility, family size expectation and previous knowledge of each other before dating. Marrying a life-long friend of the family in a year is different than marrying a woman you just met after three years

Three years is historically way too long. Why?

[–] 1 pt

Because as I said, three years is not enough to fully know and discern if a partner is well prepared for a lifelong commitment. Five years is the bare minimum.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Disagree. Too many fertile years wasted

[–] 1 pt

If she's not a virgin, you're already done. Move on unless you took her V card. You took her V card, yes? No more questions, marriage and keep a close eye on her friends. You might need to hire a private investigator and do background checks. She shouldn't have coworkers, keep her safe, yet armed, at home. Armed because there's niggers about and they're always feeling niggrish. Word of friendly advice, you know that one dish she makes for you because you like it so much? Have her teach you how to make that and her favorite dish. This is invaluable, one day, she may fall ill. You will need to cook for the both of you. You're welcome.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

She is virgin which is why I am anxious to lock it down

[+] [deleted] 1 pt