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For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same.

1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed.

2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees?

3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity]

4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth?

5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude?

6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky]

7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case]

8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern?

Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this.

here is the post.

For anyone who believes the Earth is flat I am not here to say you fell for a psyop, call you names, or insult you in general. I just have a few questions and observations I would like to have addressed. I am being respectful so please do the same. 1) I hear many people who are flat earth believers say sunrise and sunsets are perspective. My question, why is it if when you use a solar filter on a camera you can photograph the sun from sunrise to sunset you can clearly observe the sun come from behind a physical barrier, stay the same size, and then disappear bottom up behind a physical barrier? If the Earth were flat the sun is small and local, the sun should change size as it moves farther away from observer but this is not what is observed. 2) when walking cross country, why is it if I use compass, walk one mile, turn 60 degrees, walk one more, turn 60 degrees, and walk a third mile ibwill not end up near where I began. But doing the same thing with 90bdegree turns inl donl end up back where I started? If the earth were flat why would I need to make a triangle with internal angles equal to 270 degrees as opposed to 180 degrees? 3) why is it objects, regardless of their mass all accelerate at the exact same rate towards the earth when dropped? [Note you can't say density as density isn't a force and cannot give objects a vector and you cannot say buoyancy as to calculate buoyancy you have to factor in gravity] 4) why is it a pendulum drifts differently based on you position on earth? 5) why does Earth have an atmospheric pressure gradient starting at 14.7 psi and gradually decreasing as you gain elevation eventually reaching near 0? If the earth were contained then the gas particles would be hitting a physical barrier like the flat earth claims to be why do we not have a uniform pressure regardless of altitude? 6) why does every gyroscope on every aircraft all detect a 15 degree per hour drift regardless of it they're moving or stationary? [Note you can't claim its detecting the movement of the sky as the gyros are sealed and can't detect movement of the sky] 7) what would be the reason to lie about the shape of the Earth? [Note you can't say to make us turn from God, as of 2019 nearly 71% of all adults on the planet believe in a God or afterlife, most of those being Abrahamic religions so clearly this can't be the case] 8) why does a compass built in the northern hemisphere not work in the southern? Again not being a dick I just want a real, scientifically based, intelligent answers, not the Bible says this, or this ancient culture believed this. @Joe_Jaywalker here is the post.

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It’s not necessary to have a reflector on the moon to detect reflected lasers from it, as it as done as early as 1966 to measure the supposed distance to moon. This is what the link to an old Nat Geo article you didn’t read explained.

I still absolutely don’t believe that you did this “experiment” but even if you did, it was in a supervised setting where the Texas sharpshooter fallacy was used to create the illusion — you certainly didn’t see a reflector to know it was there. Even if it were there, you supposedly believe in lunar rovers and space probes, so it wouldn’t by any means prove that astronauts placed it there.

But I’m glad you admitted that you actually believe that is a real space ship, which hilariously disqualifies you from even debating the shape of the earth.

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But I’m glad you admitted that you actually believe that this is a real space ship, which hilariously disqualifies you from even debating the shape of the earth.

So tell me where did you train in aerospace engineering? Physics? Engineering in general? How would you design it? What parameters are needed to be taken into account?

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My qualifications for declaring that “lunar excursion module” an embarrassingly bad fake prop made of cardboard, foil, and curtain rods are as follows:

  • not legally blind

  • graduated fourth grade

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So you have a degree in personal incredulity. No real evidence other than it doesn't meat what you picture a lunar lander to look like in Your head?

Still waiting for that map, measurement, model, or prediction.

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Then why if you miss the location of the reflector does the laser not return as strong as hitting the "alleged " locations?

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You’re just asserting that. Unless you can show that you’ve done the work, it’s just an assertion and you’re just a gobshite.

Again, even if you showed this happening, it wouldn’t prove that men walked, played golf, and drove stupid dune buggies on the moon during the Vietnam War.

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I don't have tondo every experiment ever done for it to be valid.

And you guys always take it to NASA. Nothing in my original post and my observations have ANYTHING to do with NASA. I don't need NASA or any space agency to demonstrate the Earth's shape. I think this is settled. You have no evidence. "You just go look at my vidya from yooootube" and "looks flat bro".

Now then.

Present a map, measurement, model, or prediction based on the flat earth. Or admit you have no evidence.